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Puerto Vallarta Contest
The start of winter in Puerto Vallarta is cause for celebration as December marks the beginning of the whale watching season, traditional pilgrimages in honor of the Virgin of Guadalupe, free daily guided Artwalks in historic downtown, culinary treats all around town, the International Pro Am golf tournament, the release of baby sea turtles, perfect weather with temperatures in the low 80’s and a calendar full of holiday festivities and free activities.
The Puerto Vallarta Tourism Board is inviting everyone to join in the celebration with the launch of a mega “12 DAYS OF WINTER” (#12DaysOfWinter) promotion and participate for a chance to win daily prizes during the first 12 days of December, including artworks, bottles of tequila and raicilla and trip getaways, with the top prize being a 12-day all-expense paid vacation for two in Puerto Vallarta.
To participate register at visitpuertovallarta.com/12daysofwinter and tell the Puerto Vallarta Tourism Board what you would do on a 12-day all-expense paid holiday for two in the destination. All registrants will have a chance to win one of 12 prizes. Drawings will take place every day from December 1st to 12th. Following are the details of the prizes that will be awarded:
Winners of the getaway prizes to be awarded between December 5th through 12th will also receive a choice of 2 activities in Puerto Vallarta courtesy of Vallarta Adventures and Dolphin Discovery.
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2 HOT GAY MEN @ SEVEN Chicago
SEVEN Nightclub and Porn Superstar, Topher DiMaggio are proud to present Pablo Hernandez, performing live at Seven Nightclub.
Advance general admission tickets are only $7.
Photos along with Meet N’ Greets will be available post performance.
Doors open at 8pm, with performance at 10:30pm. GET YOUR TICKET NOW!
BITCH I’M A BOTTOM!
Hydrate TURN ABOUT Show for TPAN
IT’S BACK!
Don’t miss your chance to see staff LKH doing DRAG for charity!
The annual LKH TURNABOUT SHOW proceeds go to benefit TPAN via Hydrate, The Den, Replay Andersonville, and Replay Lakeview participants in BARLESQUE!
Doors at 8 pm
Show starts at 9:30 pm
$10 suggestion donation includes Hosted Bar and Hors d’Oeuvres from 8:30 pm – 9:30 pm!!
Join the Facebook page HERE
BRUNCH at Kit Kat Lounge Chicago
Kit Kat Lounge and Supper Club is getting into the Halloween “spirit” with a bevy of boo-tastic brunch events and creative costume contests, from Rocky Horror Picture Show parties, to a Dia de los Muertos celebration.
In addition, the Lakeview lounge and supper club will offer an array of Halloween martinis ($14 each; half-priced Sunday-Thursday) and Poison Apple shots ($5 each) throughout the month of October.
Sunday, October 25 11 a.m.- 4 p.m.
“Let’s do the time warp again” this Halloween season, as Kit Kat Lounge and Supper Club holds their sixth annual Rocky Horror Picture Show brunch on Sunday, October 25. Diva Madam X will perform songs from the campy cult classic from 11 a.m. to 4 p.m., and the film will be shown on seven large screens. Guests are encouraged to arrive dressed as their best Dr. Frank-N-Furter, Magenta, Riff Raff or other costumed character for the chance to win a $100 cash prize. Kit Kat’s Sunday brunch menu will be available, and all martinis will be half-priced (all day).
Dia de los Muertos Brunch
Sunday, November 1 11 a.m. – 4 p.m.
3700 N. Halsted Street
Chicago, IL 60613
773-525-1111
KitKatChicago.com
HYDRATE October Special Events
HYDRATE October happenings!
Latrice Royale in Chicago @ Seven
SEVEN NIGHTCLUB is proud to present RuPaul’s Drag Race Superstar, LATRICE ROYALE performing live on Friday, November 20, 2015.
Latrice Royale was a fan favorite in both RuPaul’s Drag Race, Season 4 and RuPaul’s Drag Race All Stars and featured as a guest start on multiple follow up seasons of the hit show, RuPaul’s Drag Race: Untucked.
The LARGE AND IN CHARGE, Latrice Royale, will perform two performances, at 10pm and 11:30pm. Advanced general admission tickets will be $7 dollars and VIP Meet N’ Greet tickets will be available for $15. Both options will be available for purchase via our website.
Seven Nightclub and Lounge is located at 3206 N Halsted, on the northwest corner of Halsted and Belmont. For most up to date information and to view our entire entertainment line-up, visit our website at www.whatisseven.com.
Neverland is hosting Chicago’s largest gay Halloween party
Neverland is throwing Chicago’s largest gay Halloween party with “Alien Invasion“, 10pm-5am at Circuit Nightclub.
DJ Escape of NYC’s infamous Sunday Service parties spins alongside Alexis-R, for a night of high-energy music. The backdrop is a theatrical set by Timmie Foley and Jasmine Quintana, who transformed Circuit into a Mayan jungle for our Market Days party.
CLICK HERE for NEVERLAND tickets, special pre-sale offer
WHO is PERFORMING: We are teaming one of Chicago’s best dancers, The Vixen, with Alberto Arias, the choreographer behind Aurora Sexton’s killer Market Days “Origins” performance. Not to be missed.
WHO is HOSTING: Neverland’s main host & muse Kim Chi is joined by a new generation of hosts: Imp Queen, Nico, and Sara Andrews. We have sought out some of the best walking art in Chicago for this event.
Miss Richfield at Hydrate Oct 9-10th
2 Nights Only Friday October 9 and Saturday October 10!!
Join the Return of… Miss Richfield 1981 in her new show “Cone of Silence!!”
Ever want to talk about something, but felt you couldn’t? You can now! In her new show “Cone of Silence,” Miss Richfield 1981 opens the discussion up to all forbidden topics! When she lowers the Cone of Silence, anything goes!
Enjoy new music, new videos, and new activities with the audience!
Limited VIP tickets are available for $33 which include seating in the first three rows
General admission tickets are available for $23.
Doors open at 6 PM both nights and showtime is 7:30 PM
Facebook page here
Fantastic October Events at SEVEN Nightclub
SEVEN NIGHTCLUB ANNOUNCES OCTOBER FRIDAY NIGHT ENTERTAINMENT LINE-UP FEATURING FALCON EXCLUSIVE RYAN ROSE, PORN SUPERSTAR, AUSTIN WILDE, AND RUPAUL’S DRAG RACE SUPERSTAR, JUJUBEE,
Join us and make Seven Nightclub and Lounge your number one destination for the hottest and most exciting entertainment on Halsted Street.
Friday, October 2, 2015: Falcon Exclusive Ryan Rose will be hosting WTF Friday with an all out Falcon Media giveaway. Ryan will be hosting the evening starting at 10pm with Seven’s renowned male dancers and signing autographs and taking pictures all night long until 2am.
Friday, October 16, 2015: Join fan favorite and RuPaul’s Drag Race Superstar, Jujubee, as she performs live on the Seven stage. Performances will be at 10pm and 11:30pm followed by a VIP Meet N’ Greet. Advanced general admission tickets ($7) and a limited quantity of VIP Meet N’ Greet tickets ($15) are available at www.whatisseven.com .
Friday, October 23, 2015: Porn superstar and producer, Austin Wilde, will be hosting our Seven dancers with www.guysinsweatpants.com giveaways all night long. Party starts at 10pm and table reservations may be made via vip@whatisseven.com.
Seven Nightclub and Lounge is located at 3206 N Halsted, on the northwest corner of Halsted and Belmont. For most up to date information and to view our entire entertainment line-up, visit our website at www.whatisseven.com. or FACEBOOK.
Replay and Elixir Expand to Andersonville
Two Boystown hits, expand to Andersonville, making for a very gay corner at Clark and Balmoral.
LKH Management (LKH), the group behind Lake View’s Hydrate, Halsted’s Bar & Grill, Replay, Elixir and VII, have now opened a REPLAY ANDERSONVILLE and ELIXIR ANDERSONVILLE!
Located at 5358 N. Clark (at Balmoral), Replay Andersonville will serve as a restaurant, bar and arcade, offering Contemporary American cuisine, 26 craft tap beers and an extensive premium bourbon selection. The 2,300-square foot venue features reclaimed wood, exposed brick and 144 seats, including the bar, restaurant and outdoor patio. A huge very cool mural in the arcade, which was created by local artist David Andora, reflects the venue’s playful vibe, which invites guests to linger, and enjoy three popular pinball games or 25 complimentary vintage video games, such as Ms. Pac Man, Dig Dug and Galaga.
Unlike its sister location in Lake View, Replay Andersonville will serve food, showcasing innovative and distinctive daily lunch and dinner, and weekend brunch items.
Diners can expect fresh, high-quality ingredients and big, bold flavors. An extensive list of weekend breakfast and brunch options run the gamut from sweet to savory, while lunch and dinner offer something for everyone, including signature salads, sandwiches and innovative build-your-own burgers. The restaurant will also feature weekly specials, late-night dining options and a children’s menu.
Chefs Bernardo Ibarra and Steve Farbstein, formerly of Chicago’s Girl and the Goat and Luxbar, respectively, will helm the kitchen. The menu includes classic American comfort dishes with a modern twist, elevating ordinary dishes by using unexpected flavor combinations and textures, including: hickory-smoked meatloaf, cornmeal fried chicken, and seasonal steak and pasta dishes. Some personal Chef favorites include: a Berkshire Pork Chop; Grass-fed Natural Flat Iron Steak; and Bacon Waffles with Black Pepper Butter, Sea Salt & Black Cherry Bourbon Syrup. All dishes will be made in-house, using sustainably raised and locally sourced ingredients when possible. Fresh pressed juice will serve as a nutritious start to the day or make a great addition to a brunch cocktail.
“We’re not only excited about the food we prepare, but also passionate about the people we prepare it for,” said Chef Steve. “We want guests to enjoy themselves, explore the menu and try something new, combining the familiar with the unexpected. Replay’s combination of innovative food, craft beer, premium bourbon and old school arcade games creates an environment that takes you back to your formative years. We invite the community to join us to have a great time with friends and make new memories.”
For more information, including the complete Replay Andersonville food menus, beer and bourbon list and featured video games, please visit REPLAY ANDERSONVILLE and “like” them on Facebook.
LOCATED ADJACENT TO REPLAY, Elixir is at 1509 W. Balmoral, the new space will offer guests premium concoctions, created by mixologists Vlad Novikov and Chad Shayes of Elixir Lounge Andersonville and Elixir Lounge in Lake View, respectively, which showcase eclectic, fresh ingredients in an accessible and delicious way. The 1,000-square foot upscale lounge features dark wood paneling and exposed brick that delivers an inviting and intimate environment, perfect for craft cocktails and conversation. Vlad will also create a series of his own signature cordials – alcohol infused with powerful expressions of concentrated flavors meant to be enjoyed on their own – including Bacon Whiskey, Black Garlic-infused Polugar, and Violete Limoncello.
Elixir Lounge Andersonville will exclusively feature several artisan cocktails: Flower Power, featuring candied hibiscus; Pretty in Pink, the perfect summer drink for sipping on the patio, made with specialty vermouths; and, Swedish Dream, which pays homage to the neighborhood’s Swedish roots and features lingonberry syrup.
“Each of our cocktails tell a story,” said Novikov. “We encourage our guests to experiment and want them to taste how passionate we are about delivering creative drinks that highlight unique ingredients in an accessible way.”
Unlike the Lake View location, Elixir Lounge Andersonville will serve small plate dining options and simple, but sophisticated bar snacks. LKH Chefs Bernardo Ibarra and Steve Farbstein partnered with Vlad to introduce signature dishes that complement and enhance the cocktails.
“We’re excited to bring Andersonville residents a new haven that celebrates the art of fine cocktails,” said Mark Liberson, President, LKH Management. “Elixir Lounge Andersonville is ideal for a date, casual night out with friends or a private party to celebrate a special occasion.”
For more information, including a full list of cocktails, please visit ELIXIR ANDERSONVILLE and “like” the lounge on Facebook !
HYDRATE Labor Day Weekend Events
For those who stick around the city, Hydrate wants to upgrade the entertainment for a fun-filled trio of high-energy events you won’t soon forget!
Start the three-day weekend off with a bang Friday night to celebrate the return of DJ Deanne, who visited Hydrate from Miami in June. Drag queen Khloe will greet everyone.
Come back Saturday to dance the night away to the beats of internationally renowned London DJ duo Moto Blanco. Both shows will start at 11:30 pm with a $10 cover after midnight.
Close out the weekend on as high a note as you started it with an extended Sunday Funday featuring DJ Xtacy and extra Go-Go dancers. If you don’t work Monday, stick around and welcome the morning with DJ Spinsters, performing until 4 am. Hydrate opens at 2 pm. $5 cover after midnight.
Facebook invite: https://www.facebook.com/
Joey Kisling Fund Raiser
Most everyone in Chicago is thinking about the upcoming weekend and Market Days and how they plan to celebrate and party with friends……no one really thinks about if they will even be alive to enjoy it. They just assume, they will be.
If you knew how much time you had left in this world, what would you do? Quit your job? Travel? See all the places you ever wanted to see? Take every risk you feared before? Eat all the things? Would you make a bucket list?
I know that thinking about your fatality is not necessarily enjoyable, but imagining that you could live out the rest of your life without worry, without financial burdens, and instead with freedom and clarity certainly sounds amazing, doesn’t it? Magical, even; romantic, like something that only happens in movies.
This is a chance for YOU to make this dream a reality for someone.
Boystown’s beloved Joey Kisling, at the young age of 31,
has fallen victim to the monster that is cancer. An aggressive, rare, and terminal cancer, and he needs our help.
Joey has been a bartender and DJ in Chicago for years. He’s probably poured you a shot, danced with you, inspired you to Shazam something from one of his mixes; he’s probably made you smile.
Now it is our turn to make him smile, to help him live out the rest of his life just as he wants. Let us work together to send him to sandy beaches in far away lands, let’s send him to rooftop pools in swanky hotels in Paris and Berlin. Let’s send him to The Big Easy and then Tahiti to enjoy cocktails with tiny umbrellas at swim-up bars.
Let’s help him do it because he deserves it; let’s do it because it would be amazing if someone did the same for you.
Please consider donating any amount to this fund. No amount is too big or too small; Joey will appreciate every cent. And he will appreciate every single one of you- even more than he did before.
TUESDAY August 11th TAT TUESDAYS @ REPLAY for also host a fund raiser!
Chicago Market Days BRUNCH Boystown
GET A RESERVATION – Before it’s filled up!
Join us from 11AM to 4PM on Saturday and Sunday, August 8th and 9th, for a divalicious pre-party brunch to celebrate the famous Northalsted Summer Market Days!
Enjoy $7 Stoli Cocktails, a build-your-own Bloodys, Bellinis and Sangrias bar, as well as legendary performances from Kit Kat’s own Madam X!
Call the Kit Kat Lounge at (773) 525-1111 to reserve your spot! Don’t miss it, this party is sure to be sizzling!
Hydrate and Market Days and Dinosaurs!
MYA at Seven – August 1
The arrival of SEVEN happens this weekend, in the old SPIN space. (3206 N. Halsted at Belmont)
GRAMMY AWARD WINNING ARTIST MYA! PERFORMING LIVE!
Join us for our Grand Opening Weekend Celebration and party with Grammy Award winning artist, MYA…live at SEVEN DANCECLUB!
Doors open at 8pm and MYA will be taking the stage at 10pm!
Advance General Admission Tickets are only $20!
MEET AND GREET TICKETS ARE ONLY $30! LIMITED QUANTITIES AVAILABLE!
Purchase yours at http://
VIP TICKETS AND TABLES AVAILABLE… E-mail us as vip@whatisseven.com for more information.
Beats by DJ Laura Bee
Southern Decadence Deals
GAY TRAVEL HOT DEAL!
What began as a simple going-away party in 1972 has evolved into one of New Orleans’ premier annual events: Southern Decadence.
Hosted every Labor Weekend, Southern Decadence is the 5th largest event in the city following Mardi Gras, Jazz Fest, Essence Fest, and French Quarter Fest. 2014 brought in over 160,000 participants.
Nicknamed the “Gay Mardi Gras,” Southern Decadence is one of those quintessential New Orleans occasions in which participants get to strut their stuff in elaborate costumes and high fashion or barely anything at all, the day of the Parade!
Everyone gets in on the action and all the bars will have their own drag shows, contests, DJs, music and events.
Don’t miss this giant 44th Southern Decadence celebration of LGBT life, music and culture. CALL David now FOR THE BEST DEALS! 1-800-942-1280!
Pride Fest Weekend at Kit Kat Lounge
Pride Fest Weekend at Kit Kat Lounge and Supper Club
Two Day Celebration Includes Magic Mike XXL Brunch
Saturday, June 20 and Sunday, June 21 11 a.m.-2 a.m.
Kit Kat Lounge and Supper Club, located at the corner of Halsted and Waveland, will celebrate Pride Fest with a two day party on Saturday, June 20 and Sunday, June 21. Throughout the weekend, live performances will take place on Kit Kat’s alfresco, elevated runway stage, including female impersonators, acrobatics, burlesque, boylesque and more (schedule is outlined below).
Each day, the Lakeview-located lounge and supper club will offer their “Divalicious” brunch from 11 a.m. to 2 p.m., featuring performances by Diva Madam X. During brunch services, Kit Kat will raffle off advanced screening passes, complimentary movie tickets and schwag from the upcoming film, Magic Mike XXL (prizes include official t-shirts, duffel bags, dog tags, beach balls, collectable post cards and more; the movie is in theaters on Wednesday, July 1).
In addition to the regular dinner menu, Kit Kat will offer a special Pride Menu, as well as Pride Martinis and Magic Mike XXL Martinis (outlined below). Kit Kat will be open on Saturday, June 21 and Sunday, June 22 from 11 a.m. to 2 a.m. For table reservations, call 773-525-1111.
Saturday, June 20
11 a.m.-2 p.m. Magic Mike XXL Brunch with Diva Madam X
2 p.m.-2 a.m. Divas Sara Andrews and Kinley Preston will perform intermittently
4:30 p.m. Emcee Joseph C. Vorteque will introduce Angela Eve’s and Eve’s Parlor Cabaret Acts and Jet Adore will perform boylesque
5:30 p.m. Strong men acrobatics by Mr. Spring and Tulga
6:30 p.m. Shana Vaughn Gabor will perform ballet with a twist
7:30 p.m. Ray Gun will perform burlesque
Sunday, June 21
11 a.m.-2 p.m. Magic Mike XXL Brunch with Diva Madam X
2 p.m.-2 a.m. Divas Sara Andrews and Kinley Preston will perform intermittently
3:30 p.m. Emcees Angela Eve and Joseph C. Vorteque will introduce Angela Eve’s and Eve’s Parlor Cabaret Acts and Jet Adore will perform boylesque
4:30 p.m. Ray Gun will perform burlesque
5:30 p.m. Angela Eve and Big Mike will perform burlesque and boylesque
6:30 p.m. Strong men acrobatics by Mr. Spring and Tulga
Pride Menu
available 11 a.m. to 12 a.m.
Mac ‘n Cheese & Salad – creamy cheddar and parmesan in a light truffle cream sauce with bacon, topped with crunchy breadcrumbs, served with an arugula side salad tossed with balsamic vinaigrette $12
Croque Monsieur Panini – applewood smoked ham, gruyere cheese and mustard aioli, served with parmesan truffle fries $14
Ravioli – ricotta and spinach stuffed ravioli in a pesto parmesan cream sauce with asparagus, shallots, mushrooms and peas with crunchy bread crumb garnish $14
Sliders – two mini burgers with Brie, caramelized red onions, dijon aioli and arugula tossed with balsamic dressing, served with parmesan truffle fries $14
Quesadillas – grilled chicken, caramelized onions and pepper jack cheese, served with salsa, guacamole and sour cream $13
Quinoa – Cajun spiced chicken breast served atop a quinoa salad with kalamata olives, cherry tomatoes, pine nuts and feta cheese $14
Steak Salad – grilled skirt steak served atop mixed greens tossed in balsamic vinaigrette with crumbled blue cheese, cherry tomatoes and kalamata olives, garnished with an onion ring $17
Buffalo Glazed Chicken Sandwich – coleslaw and pomme frites $14
Kit Kat Lounge & Supper Club
3700 N. Halsted Street
Chicago, IL 60657
773.525.1111
KitKatChicago.com
Chigaygo LGBT Gay Pride Comedy
Chigaygo, Laugh Factory Chicago’s premiere queer comedy showcase, is kicking off Pride Week with “The All-Star Sparkly Unicorn Pride Show” on June 21, 2015 at 8pm.
Chigaygo is celebrating its second anniversary and third Pride show (we know…the math is confusing) with Chicago’s most fabulously funny queer comics.
Hosted by Scott Duff (WCPT’s OUT CHICAGO, Laugh Factory), the evening features a veritable who’s who of queer Chicago comics including Cody Melcher, Peter Kim, Gwen La Roka, Ali Clayton, Marla Depew, and Rachel McCartney. “It has been such an incredible journey,” says Duff of working on Chigaygo. “Over the past two years, we have been lucky enough to have hosted some of the funniest comics in the country. And, I couldn’t be more excited about this amazing line up of local talent for our Pride Show.”
Since its beginning, Chigaygo has featured top gay and gay-friendly comics from Chicago and around the country including Poppy Champlin, Jessica Halem, Liza Treyger, Bill Cruz, Joel Kim Booster, The Puterbaugh Sisters, Candy Lawrence, Megan Gailey, Drew Anderson, Kenny DeForest, Matt Griffo, The Fruit Flies, and many more!
Doors open at 7 p.m.; show starts at 8 p.m. It’s first-come-first-serve seating, and you never know what surprises might show up. So bring your family, your big gay lover, or gay best friend and come out for a night of pride and laughter.
Laugh Factory Chicago is located 3175 N. Broadway at Broadway and Belmont. All shows are 18 and over. For details and reservations please go to www.LaughFactory.com or call (773) 327-3175.
Scott Duff (Host/Producer):
Scott Duff is a Chicago based comic, radio host, and professional gay. He is the host/producer of OUT CHICAGO, a weekly live talk show for the LGBT community airing Sundays from 11am-1pm on WCPT, Chicago’s Progressive Talk AM & FM, as well as a founding member of About Face Theatre, Chicago’s premiere LGBT theatre dedicated to creating and producing plays that advance the national dialogue on gender and sexuality. In addition to over performing at stand up venues across the city, Duff’s theatre credits include work with the Goodman, Steppenwolf, Chicago Shakespeare, Lookingglass, iO, and ATC.
Laugh Factory’s History in the Gay Community:
The Laugh Factory has always fought against adversity. It was born during a time when comedians were striking against the very clubs that they perform in. Laugh Factory and its owner Jamie Masada started with one simple philosophy, “Let’s treat comics with respect.” As the Laugh Factory grew into the brand it is today, the philosophy grew with it. Masada and the Laugh Factory had front row seats to the gay rights movement of the 1980s. As AIDS began to ravage the gay community, Masada began passing out condoms at all of his shows. Masada was also instrumental in the creation of West Hollywood, which is considered one of the most gay-friendly cities in the country. Soon, this little underdog of a club was receiving national news coverage for its efforts to fight the AIDS epidemic. Masada, a noted philanthropist, has always strived to make his clubs a forward thinking, progressive and safe place for all who enter. When Masada discovered that some of his comics were remaining in the closet for fear of crowd backlash, he decided to start “Coming Out of the Closet” one of the nation’s first all gay comedy shows. The show became a huge success and to this day the Laugh Factory is seen as a shining beacon of the now safe and gay-friendly West Hollywood. In 2012, the Laugh Factory brought its brand, and philosophy of respect to Chicago. Laugh Factory Chicago set up camp in Boys Town, where it hopes to continue its tradition of supporting those in need. Masada is excited to work with the Chicago’s LGBTQ community to keep the city loving, tolerant and of course, laughing.
Kit Kat Lounge Benefit June 16
Tuesday, June 16 6-8 p.m. $20 donation
3700 N. Halsted Street
Chicago, Illinois 60613
773.525.1111
KitKatChicago.com
Leann Rimes at Roscoes May 8th
Roscoe’s Presents LeAnn Rimes LIVE
on the Dance Floor Stage, Friday May 8!
LeAnn is One of Pop/Country Music’s Biggest Superstars of the Past Century
with over 37 Million Albums Sold Worlwide and Countless Awards Including the Grammy Award for Best New Artist of 1997!
Known for her Hits “How Do I Lie”, “Can’t Figth the Moonlight” & “Blue” – Join us for this Spring’s Biggest Night on Halsted as LeeAnn Performs Remixes of All Your Favorites!
Doors Open at 10PM
$40 Advance Ticket Sale*
$20 General Admission**
*Tickets guarantee admission & are extremely limited. They can be purchased by calling 773.281.3355 ext 2 or by emailing shawn@roscoes.com.
**Cannot be purchased in advance and is based on availability and cannot be guaranteed.
